- HIV meds and PrEP may massively reduce the risk of infection, but risk does still exist. (Condoms also massively reduce the risk but do not remove it completely — they break, etc.)
- “HIV-” and “undetectable” are only as good as the last test. Status can change between tests.
- Those terms are also only good if someone is honest. Just as there are poz guys who simply don’t know it or who will lie and say they are negative if it means you will have sex with them, there are unquestionably also guys who aren’t stable on their meds or are lying about being on them at all.
- [+u] and [=] reduce the risk of transmission of HIV and only HIV. Not HPV, HEP, gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, etc. (However, people who are on the meds and getting tested regularly will tend to have infections discovered and treated sooner, which may reduce both spread and intensity.)
Monday, May 9, 2016
What do [+] and [=] mean in someone’s profile?
Tuesday, September 18, 2012
What does “HWP” mean? What does “Fit” mean?
These two terms show up in profiles fairly often. “HWP” seems to have peaked and fallen off in popularity in recent years, supplanted by the somewhat more exact “fit”.
What does “HWP” mean?
“HWP” is short for “Height/Weight Proportionate”.
In theory, it is a shorthand way of saying “In good (enough) shape” — someone who isn’t scrawny skinny or fat. In actual use, of course, it gets used to mean “In (really) good shape”, anything from “no tummy” to “no body fat at all”.
It probably encompasses “really good shape” variants like ripped, chiseled, buffed, and muscled, although those are usually specific enough states that if that is what someone is actually looking for, they will say so rather than using a hazier term like “HWP”.
The snark in me, of course, says that all heights and weights are proportionate. It’s just that 2:1 (tall and super skinny) and 1:2 (short and round) aren’t the ratios being looked for by these people.
What does “Fit” mean?
With the term “fit”, it is the same issue, but at least its body consciousness is worn more up front. No one is going to dub a guy over 40 with softness around the middle as “fit”. (Even if he is technically just fine, health-wise for this age.)
Are they negative terms?
I am of a split mind on this.
In general, “HWP” and “fit” mean “Those without actively used gym memberships need not apply.”
Much of queer theory seems to be about finding the places and ways that the GLBTQ community (and society as a whole) is mean — where “mean” has three meanings: unkind, average, and poor quality. As such, anything — anything! — which someone (anyone, include a queer strawman) could take negatively must be bad. That includes any form of labeling and comparison of subjective qualities. By disinviting people who don’t measure up to an arbitrary (and really, unspecified) standard, those people are put aside, put down, said to be lesser.
On the other hand, how can you express a physical (or mental, or spiritual) preference without shorthand labeling and comparison? What is behind the use of “HWP” or “fit”? Probably a desire for shared activities, a level of physical prowess, an avoidance of the health and social issues which people not “HWP”/not “fit” experience… and admittedly, a perhaps shallow focus on looks. To get those concepts across, you either use shorthand idioms (like “HWP”), or you write a paragraph of prose which will make people skip over the profile.
(I know for myself, while I don’t use those terms in my profiles, I do pay attention to height/weight listings, looking for play or romantic partners who are “close enough” to my build. If they are shorter yet heavier, or taller yet lighter, I know that the likelihood of a good match decreases a lot. I admit it, I am looking for “HWP” in some form.)
In the end, I have to draw a difference between perhaps shallow “lookist” labeling of this sort and truly socially unacceptable ways of stating a preference (like the profile I saw recently that said “No blacks or Asians (not racist, just don’t like ethnic)”) or the ridiculously limiting ones (“Be between 27 and 29”). “HWP” and “fit” can be used negatively, and certainly can be read than way, but the terms are not inherently bad.
(Yeah, I know queer theory mavens will go off on me for stuff in this post. Thanks, but references to Foccault, repressed patriarchy, and emotional intelligence put me to sleep. No need to share.)
Sunday, February 12, 2012
Return of “Craigslist bots”
The most notorious are the Craigslist bots, automated replies that get past the CAPTCHA mechanism to send you curiously phrased replies which are just tantalizing enough to maybe be real. I’ve posted about this before once, and again.
Here is the latest variation I’ve received, within 15 minutes of each other (I’ve zapped the address domain names so spiders hopefully won’t pick them up):
From: Vance Hale
Well let's get this show going! I reckon I should give you my stats, I'm 6'1in, 180; brown/green. I'm looking for normal to small dicks. Later, man
And then this one:
From: Cory Ford
God, some of the posts are hilarious. Yours was great, tho. So I suppose I should give my stats, like 6'1", 177 brown/blue. Any age difference is no object for me. Meshing well is about all that does. Chk U L8r.
How to spot a bot? Well, a couple of the old methods aren’t present here: a woman’s name attached to a post going to a guy, or directing you to a site to verify that you are real.
The telltale here, of course, was the similar structure: greeting, I should give my stats, stats for someone desirably tall and desirably slender, note about what I want, closing. In particular, though, no reference to what my post was about, no racial information, and nothing that my post requested is present (like a pic).
You’ll note that the “Cory Ford” email address carries a woman’s name, though, and the “Vance Hale” one may as well (“willa”), but the email address is going to be hidden in favor of just the reply name in most modern programs. I can’t for the life of my figure out who would program bots to be smart enough to attach a male name on an m4m post but still use a female email address. (But that’s how spammers and virus writers get caught: they do something stupid, leave some clue.)
Thursday, September 15, 2011
What is up with misspelled words? TrouBBle, SSkin, ParTy, FFun,…?
Indeed there is: like with so much else in the gay world, these are code words, spellings intended to alert those in the know to the proclivities and preferences of the person they are reading about, without them having to come out ans say it. Sometimes, as with hanky codes, this is to advertise for sex; sometimes, as with the term “420” referring to marijuana, it advertises drug use or other illegal activities; and sometimes it serves to hide controversial philosophies or political leanings.
Didn’t you learn to capitalize the pronoun “I” in school?
This one is a common affectation for men who are playing the “slave” (extreme submissive) role in a relationship (or who want to). To express subservience or to take away the importance of the self from the slave, the slave becomes “i” or “this one”, always lowercase (even at the start of a sentence). This mirrors the capitalization of “He” when referring to God, and since the master in the relationship is sometimes deemed to take the role of a “god”, he may become “He” or “Sir” or whatever.Girls just wanna have fun, why do guys want FFun?
“FF” is shorthand for Fist Fucking, usually referred to just as fisting these days. Any time you see the double-F capitalized, either by itself or embedded in another word — unless you are reading about Marvel Comics — that is what is being referred to. (Exception: if the entire word is in caps — “RUFF & TUFF”, for example — it probably isn’t about fisting, even when the word is misspelled like this.)You’ll also see references to “handball”, but that isn’t a sports alternative to tennis. “Handball” is a euphemism for fisting — “hand in a ball”, get it? (And in case you didn’t know, “watersports” doesn’t usually involve an Olympic-sized swimming pool.)
Hiding things behind euphemisms can backfire, though. Several years ago, our local leather club reserved a church-owned camp location for a weekend event, and we listed “handball” as one of the activities that would be available in the playspace (aka “dungeon”, but we didn’t use that word). One of the directors of the camp read our website and said “We don’t have a handball court, I wonder what they mean?”, so he looked it up online. We quickly had our contract cancelled. But karma comes around: they went into bankruptcy and had to sell the camp within the next year. Don’t fuck with leathermen, because we use our fists!
Won’t you get in trouBBle for spelling it that way?
When I first came out, “BB” would show up in newspaper personal ads meaning “Butch Bottom”, more or less what we now call “leatherboy”.By the mid-90s, “BB” had come to mean “Body Builder”, back when “working out” wasn’t the primary hobby of every non-bear gay man in the world, when having a six-pack was rare — as opposed to today when it is almost required if you go out thump-thump dancing and dare to remove your shirt.
For the last decade, though, “BB” has meant “Bare Back”, as in fucking without a condom, usually including cumming inside the guy. See also seeding, breeding, and bug chasing.
Confusion over the term was the focus of a subplot in Queer As Folk, too, although that was very odd since the characters assumed it meant “butch bottom” (they went to a “BB” party, guess what the activity was), but I hadn’t seen it in use that way for maybe 15 years before that episode aired. (And then just this morning I saw it used in the abbreviation guide in an issue of Bound & Gagged from 2003.)
Do you hiSS much when you SSpeak?
Every now and then, you’ll hit a profile where every “s” is capitalized and doubled into “SS”. Completely orthogonal to “FF” = fisting, “SS” references skinheads with white power/white supremacy/neo-Nazi leanings. (Or SSometimeSS juSSt guySS into Nazi uniform play, I gueSS. Not going there, thankSS.)(I’m not trying to be judgmental here. There are skins who aren’t neo-Nazis and there are skins who are not white supremacist or “white power”. I only know enough that when I tripped across such an “SS”-filled profile, I just turned around, didn’t ask any questions.)
Just for completeness, if these profiles reference “88”, that doesn’t mean they play the piano. “H” is the 8th letter of the alphabet, so 88 = HH = Heil Hitler.
It’s my parTy, I’ll do drugs if I want to!
And finally we come to drug use. The standard euphemism for drug use during sex is “partying” or “party and play”. So when asked if you want to “party”, or when someone says they are looking to or for a “party”, they don’t want streamers and noisemakers. A number of different drugs can be involved in this, typically meth (methamphetamine, crystal), but also cocaine, MDMA, and GHB. In particular, though, while alcohol and pot and poppers are technically drugs which can be played with in connection with sex, few if any people ever mean them when referring to “partying”; those drugs are too “soft” for the intent.A common nickname for meth is “Tina”. Abbreviated to “T”, the letter gets inserted in the middle of any number of words, but especially in the word “parTy” to qualify the intent.
How do I tell codewords from typos?
While I usually recommend “Assume ignorance before malice” when evaluating things when someone does a stupid or offensive action, the reverse is my recommendation when it comes to cruise site profile text and ads: “Assume what they wrote is intentional.”People have ample opportunity to craft, review, and edit their text. While many men do write poorly and typos do creep in — and many write quickly and never review what they wrote or correct errors — these codeword typos are common enough that they can be identified easily and most don’t fall into common causes of typos. Incorrect capitalization will usually only occur at the start of the word — “COmpany” is a common one for me, caps on the letter after the initial one as well — but not in the middle of the word. And while an occasional accidental doubled letter can creep in, consistently doing it with the same letters throughout an ad or profile transcends accident and becomes intent.
Which then leads to the other rule of thumb: “If you suspect there is an extra layer of meaning, trust your instincts.” That doesn’t have to mean “run like hell” (although I’ve done that); like any coded communication, these things are both an invitation to conversation and are prone to misinterpretation, so if you are curious, ask. And then read between the lines of their response: fisters and slaves will likely be very upfront with you, but druggies probably won’t.
Updated on September 19
Naturally, as soon as I posted this, a new example cropped up. I got hit up by a guy looking for “pig pplay”. I asked and he promptly confirmed it the double-p a reference to ”party”.
Friday, August 19, 2011
Online Ass d'Jour: Smile When You Say That!
Him: (sent a smile)
Me: (looked at his profile, nothing I was interested in)
Him (a few minutes later): When someone sends a smile, you're supposed to reply.
(Thank you Emily Post. Here’s my take on smiles, winks, tugs, and pokes. Short answer: no, you’re supposed to check out the person and then reply only if you have anything to reply about.)
Saturday, August 13, 2011
Online Ass d'Jour: Clothe Thy Naked Self!
Him: Wow
Me: Thanks
Him: Wasn’t a compliment. You should put a shirt on.
(That’s the pic he saw on my profile. If he has issues with that pic, how much time does he spend telling guys online to cover up? Wow indeed.)
Monday, June 27, 2011
Save me from “discreet” encounters
With the first one, who approached me via a Craigslist ad, he asked during our negotiation exchanges if I was “discreet”, and I made him tell me what he meant by it. To me, it means the simple stuff — don’t go telling details of what we did, and look/act like a normal person when you come to my place or we see each other out. To this guy, though, it was “Never connected; never met if asked or not asked” (that is: “You don’t know me, you never saw me, you’ll never contact me.”) Sorry, I don’t work that way: if I see you in a social setting (be it the gay bar, the supermarket, or a business lunch), I’m not going to ignore you or feign ignorance. I’m going to say “Hi, how are you doing?” as I would to any casual acquaintance. If someone asks how we know each other, then I will properly feign ignorance/memory loss: “Heck, I don’t remember, I meet so many people. It was a few months ago, maybe?”
At the end of our negotiations, he pulled back from meeting (when I was actually on the way there, in fact; lesson: never head their way without a full address and room number), saying he was “too uncomfortable to have any fun”. My hope is that he realized that he can’t really have his kink cake and eat it too for very long; that the more people he plays with, the less “discreet” he can actually manage to be, and that he’ll eventually overcome his fears (or have a good talk with his partner). I accepted his apology (at least he didn’t totally flake out), and gave him a mild reprimand/encouragement to realize that his “discreet” requirements really don’t mean anything to most guys: we just want a hot scene and aren’t going to care to give him anything other than a vague acknowledgment in other social settings.
The second guy hit me up on a formal cruise site. Looking at his profile, I saw that he was from Chicago, but because he keeps his sex life “private”, he only wants to play with guys in Minneapolis. And further, he only wants to play with guys who are visiting Minneapolis. In other words, he wants to keep the chance of meeting you in any other context vanishingly small, and also wants to minimize the chance for a repeat encounter. That’s not keeping your sex life private, that is being embarrassed about the sex you choose to pursue.
I’ve dealt with another guy here in Seattle who expressed a similar but different version of this: he wants to go to play parties, but only in other cities. He bartends at a local bar and he doesn’t want there to be a chance that someone at the party might be one of his customers. I can’t say what the concern is beyond that, though — they might expect free/stronger drinks, they might puncture a “tough top” image he tries to project as a bartender, something else? I find it hard to picture a scenario where the fact that actual sex was involved in how they knew him would make things any different. (Maybe if they felt he gave bad service, they would have additional dirt to bad mouth him with? Please, girl, this is the gay community: they can make up plenty of dirt without having seen you in action.)
Going forward, if a guy ask if I am “discreet”, I’m going to say “No, I’m not. If you have to ask, then I’m not discreet enough for you.”
Thursday, March 31, 2011
Most useless CraigsList photo ever?
Masc casual fun - 35 (Seattle)All perfectly fine, nothing out of the ordinary there.
Nice & normal, good-looking white masucline and horny looking for some no-strings, safe, casual fun with like-minded fit bro around my age or younger.
I'me five-ten, one sixty, packing a thick 8 inches. Nice bod, hairy chest and legs.
I cannot host but can travel to you in and around Seattle. Real here ... in Seattle ... wet day
And then it had this pic attached:
Now, I know you’ve probably seen pics in CraigsList ads which are bait-and-switch pics: knowing that some people won’t click through to read an ad if there’s no pic, some guys will add a sunset or a drawing or some other image. Those offend a little (since you’re either looking for porn shots or some hint of what the guy on the end looks like other than his dick/ass), but they are part of “doing business”.
This one, though, what is the point of this pic? You aren’t showing your “thick 8 inches” (heck, you aren’t even showing a bulge from it!). You aren’t showing your “nice bod, hairy chest and legs”. Hell, you aren’t even showing that you’re male! But at the same time, neither does this seem to be in the same class as a bait-and-switch pic; there is a different level of intentionality attached to using this.
So, yeah, “Most useless CraigsList photo ever.”
Tuesday, February 1, 2011
Grindr Censors User Text, Blames Apple
This e-mail was sent to help@grindr.com:
I recently had my Grindr profile’s text zapped. So far as I can tell, this was because something in the text was deemed “suggestive”. Not explicit or offensive or in violation of copyright. (Of course, since I don’t have a copy of the text that was there before, I can only go by my memory of how “suggestive” it may have been.)
We’ve become used to restrictions on imagery with social networking sites (gay and otherwise) — many won’t allow any naughty images in the publicly available pics (and especially not pics which depict actual sex), and some even require an identifiable face — so the similar restrictions you have had in place there do not bother me.
But now you’re limiting text? Really? And not even explicit text, but “suggestive” text? Double really?
I never like to tie things to malice or stupidity where there may be a rational reason. Is this something that was dictated by Apple or RIM in order to get in/stay in their app stores? Did you get purchased by Disney? Are you trying to back away from the market that made you popular for some reason? (Because let’s be honest: Grindr’s #1 use is chatting up prior to hooking up. Please don’t try to deny it.)
Limiting what people can say (or write) edges into the realm of censorship. And even though it may technically be your right to limit what we can do through your system, if this over-the-top limitation of content is your own choice and not something forced on you (er, “insisted upon”) by external partners, I can’t help but think it’s going to bite you. (Actually, it’s apt to bite you even if this is capitulation to external requirements.)
Here’s hoping you’ll be willing to reply to this in some understandable form, whether that’s a personal reply or a press release or a web page which addresses the issue in a generalized manner (and hopefully has guidelines for what is and is not “suggestive”).
(A URL to your existing Terms of Service isn’t going to do it, especially since it doesn’t have the same text as the app put out notifying me of the zapped text.)
Looking forward to hearing from you.
— Jim
Seattle, WA
I was finally able to dig around in their website Terms and Forums to find this:
Apple places limits on what can be displayed in a public profile. This includes not only your picture, but also text. Even masked text is not allowed. This means all public profiles have to be G rated. (link)“Masked text” would refer to things like “f*ck” and “po**ers”.
So they are trying to pass the buck to Apple. But when Apple did their booting of boobie apps a year ago, here what they said:
We have decided to remove any overtly sexual content from the App Store (link)Here are the full Grindr profile guidelines, which specify:
• No sexually explicit or overly suggestive text.In others words, no, Apple doesn’t say it has to be G rated, just that it cannot be “overtly sexual”. Notice what has happened in part: they dropped the “T”, turning “overtly” (openly) into “overly” (excessively); by definition, suggestive text cannot be “overtly” sexual.
More to the point, though, they don’t (presumably won’t) define how much becomes “excessive”. But by use of the term “G rated” (which Apple apparently does not require), potentially anything (sexually) suggestive becomes “overly” suggestive.
We shall see, though. I’ve entered new profile text, referencing hanky colors instead of any spelled-out activity (previously, I said something about “put me on my knees”), so the suggestiveness should be more vague; you need specialized external knowledge to decipher things.
Wouldn’t that be a kick in the pants, if gay social networking apps running scared caused a resurgence of the hanky code, only in textual form rather than actual cloth-in-a-pocket?
(Hmm, “kick in the pants”. That would be dark blue with white boot print pattern, right? Teal blue with boot print for “kick in the balls”?)
(And yes, I know there are Apple haters out there who are going to try to lay the blame right back at Apple’s feet. Your belief is already noted; only comments with some substance beyond that tired tirade will be retained.)
Sunday, September 19, 2010
CraigsList Sex-Post-of-the-Week #1 (in a series)
DL Power Bottom 4 U! (Just don't tell my mama) - 21 (Seattle)I’d love to assume that this is a joke (if so, well written!)… but it is CraigsList!
Really new at this and I’m excited to finally post on CL. I need to be on the DL, though.
I ‘m a really fit power bottom. I am a virgin. I love a good sling session and am open to fisting if we click. I cannot host, I live with my mother and she doesn’t know. I actually live in the basement but I can get a bit noisy, even when I jack to my favorite Colt Videos. I am not gay, but until I meet the right girl, I want to Party!
I am a real man and expect the same, 20-40 is cool and I prefer hairy muscle studs like Tom Selleck. I am all man at a pink 230, 5’9 with boyish charm at 49. I don’t look my age and got carded once. I feel 21 and that is all that matters!
I don’t have a pic as I am on the DL and don’t know you. Please send me a pic, though. You need to host. As a virgin, I have not been tested, but you need to be. I LOVE box wine so have some ready. Cannot wait to hear from you! Toodles!
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
Diss where I live, that’ll help you get laid!
Me:
Hello, sir. Thanks for contacting me on Manhunt.Him:
I am certainly interested in meeting you for possible play. I am very much into fisting, but I also like piss play, many forms of BDSM, and just plain fucking and sucking. I would be happy to strictly bottom for you.
You can reach me at this e-mail address at your leisure. I am available this weekend, after 11 pm on Friday.
wknds are unlikely to work for me oftenMe:
monday mornings are often good for me
where do you live?
Perhaps some weekday evenings would work? I could do a Monday morning on occasion; just have to work late to balance it (but I can do that).Him:
I live in Columbia City/Mt. Baker.
wow, Columbia City, cool neighborhood but not very convenient.Not too happily married, I would guess, if you’re trolling for gay sex to happen when the wife is at work and the kids are at school.
evenings are not easy for the same reason as wknds, happily married with kids
send ass face body pix
But really: your job as a BDSM top is to seduce me into doing what you want. My job as a BDSM bottom is to seduce you into doing to me what I want. It’s a two-way street; just because you’re the ostensible top doesn’t mean you have free rein to dictate all aspects of the scene.
He could have been more firm on the time constraints. Since Monday mornings are apparently all he was interested in, he really should have made that clear from the first contact.
But for God’s sake, don’t diss where I live! Just tell me it’s too far to work for you and I’ll understand.
“Fuck off” is a great safeword to stop Internet sessions gone astray.
Updated on October 13, 2010
A few weeks ago, I got hit up by a boy who was looking to recruit another bottom for his daddy/sir to play with. Guess who his top was?
I politely declined, saying just that I had had a past exchange with his top which didn’t go well, and refused to give details.



